bruuuno
11:00 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Arrest figures mean fuck all, in the millwall cup game the were mass punch ups outside and only a handful of people got nicked.
When police lose control of a situation they can't afford to arrest people as it takes three of them out of the game
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HairyHammer
10:53 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Crassus
No I accept that and know it was not just Hammers fans that is why I find the media so despicable.
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Crassus
10:46 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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HH
If that's bait I am netted
Were you actually there? If you were you would have noted, as one so concerned about upsetting opposition fans, that it was not one way. I know it confounds your narative but their lot were not shrinking violets in the name calling and shit chucking
Just as it should be and always was as it happens
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Crassus
10:39 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Queens
That's 7 tugs but 3 only charged and those bailed subject to gathering evidence
Smacks of desperation of trying to get something that will stick in court on a bloke who was pointing
And of course, the pointees were not just our lads, their lot were happily playing pass the parcel with the projectiles and fingers but that, strangely, seems to have been passed over?
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HairyHammer
10:38 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Yes throwing coins and tearing seats swearing shouting at opposition fans are all pathetic and should not happen even if it is done by a tiny minority of fans as was done against Chelsea on Wednesday night , but one thing is very obvious and I will write it in capitals for everyone to understand .
THE MEDIA DO NOT LIKE WEST HAM, MAYBE EVEN HATE IS NOT A BIG WORD TO USE.
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Queens Fish Bar
10:31 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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chim chim cha boo 8:39 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
Spot on. It was a great night. I was in 148, took an old mate who is Chelsea and he was impressed. With the ground, atmosphere and the way we played them off the park.
Knicker wetting by the press. 7 arrests hardly a riot.
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Hayzer
9:54 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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You can tell all that from a photograph.... Fck me its CSI Stratford
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Crassus
9:46 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Times journo summed it up perfectly
To paraphrase - broadly a lot about nothing with a few blokes of a certain age, who should know better, playing up by largely pointing and adopting a stance of do you want some, a few did, so chucked coins and plastic bottles to re-live their youth
Made me smile and in truth, was spot on when considering in ground events
Back in the day that would have really gone off and the thin line of stewards would have lasted shorter than a good fart
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Lertie Button
9:36 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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In the pictures I've seen in the papers it's clear the West Ham er supporters getting involved in the bother are coked out their heads.
Suppose you had to be there but in all honesty it doesn't make great viewing, a bunch of middle aged men who should know better
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Alex Bunbury
9:34 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Good article. Most I agree with some of it I don't.
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chim chim cha boo
9:06 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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I can kind of see why you'd ban someone for throwing coins but pointing, singing and swearing? Not for me.
The way I saw it was there was enough room in the stands, even the away stands, to move out of the way of the silliness and plenty did exactly that.
All the fans who wanted to be a part of it moved towards the stewards, us AND them, and it was nothing much more than posturing from then on. Even if you're pissed up you know it's madness to do much more than that in a fully CCTVed up stadium.
So some kids got scared? The stories they can tell at school will make up for that. 'Character building' my old man used to say, and he was right. If you don't want your child to be scared at football you really should think twice about taking them to West Ham's first London derby against a team EVERYONE hates.
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Crassus
9:00 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Had just about enough of the mass hysteria through the media, so cant be arsed to read another condemnatory tome from self rightious journos who were only recently waxing lyrically about the delights of the oppressive Upton Park atmosphere and its faithful.
Not one comment about the Chelsea fans, and as no doubt said, in truth it was a few blokes throwing water bottles and a seat back and forth. Never saw a single puch thrown in the ground, a bit of surging and a lot of posturing.
7 that is a whole SEVEN, were nicked and 3, yep THREE of whom charged after this momentous riot. One must have been the pissed lemon who wandered out on the tarp'.
So no big deal really is it?
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8:49 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Chim, I have read that some fans might be chucked out for this season.
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chim chim cha boo
8:39 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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I saw a few plastic bottles of water thrown, some coins and half of one plastic seat. Everything thrown in one direction seemed to get thrown back in the other direction. NOBODY WAS SERIOUSLY HURT in the stadium.
Two lots of fans simply squared-up and there was a load of pointing going on.
Do you really want to ban people for life for fucking pointing and swearing? It's being treated like it was WW3 by the media and some people are getting a bit overexcited.
The real undercurrent seems to be 'we the tax-payers paid for that stadium and some naughty boys are intimidating us and it's not fair'.
For every person put off going by what happened on Wednesday night there will be another who really wants to go to the stadium because of what happened on Wednesday night.
It was a fantastic night under the lights, we intimidated a few posh new chelsea fans and played them off the park. I'm starting to think of the Olympic stadium as our home ground and that is a great feeling.
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kirok1
8:32 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Agree with most of it.
I don't think the OS is perfect but then, neither was the Boleyn, unless you've got rose tinted specs.
There are issues, I'll grant that. But the biggest problems are a bunch of so called fans who think wrecking the joint and acting likes fuckwits is what it takes to enjoy a match.
Chelsea fans are getting off scott free because we are an easy media target, yet we'd rather harp on about the good old days than admit that MS is bang on about fading if we'd stayed at the Boleyn.
It'll be a while before we can call it home but more bums on seats equals more revenue equals more chance of holding onto our best players and stepping up against the Champions League mob. I enjoyed beating some of 'em last year. We've got a better chance of doing it if we keep moving on up.
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les marteaux
8:13 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Those who threw bottles at the Manure coach - proper West Ham
People fighting each other in first few games - proper West Ham innit.
Thugs throwing missiles at rent boy fans - Proper West Ham.
Fuck them, they are giving ammunition to our enemies like Levy, the media and all the other London clubs. These people are willing us to fail and these proper West Ham CUNTS are giving them all they want to throw at us.
Most fans who go there want fuck all to do with them. Ban the cunts.
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geoffpikey
6:40 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Makes some good points. If he's a cunt just cos everyone doesn't agree 100% then EVERYONE on WHO is an ubercunt. Oh...
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peroni
6:30 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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I usually like him and think he's the best out there. He's wrong here though so I shall forever now think he's a cunt.
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One McAvennieeeeee
6:27 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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He's proper smug. Never liked anything he's had to say, WHU or not.
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Sven Roeder
6:14 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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'Chelsea supporter Steve CUTTING showing his bloodied head'
SELF INFLICTED, SHIRLEY?
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J.Riddle
6:08 Fri Oct 28
Re: Martin Samuel.....Daily Mail .
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Can't be arsed to read all that
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